Ahead of a public forum in Williamsport on Saturday, Nov 3 at 1 in Brandon Park, Jordi was honored to have David Garlock (https://twitter.com/DavidLeegarlock) and Tyree Little of the newly formed Straight Ahead organization in PA (https://twitter.com/TowardAbolition). Thanks to Jennifer Black for helping to produce this episode.

David and Tyree share their stories of being incarcerated, finding paths towards restorative justice, and the common humanity of all people imprisoned. We also dig into the situation in PA where the imprisoned population is disproportionately African-American and also elderly.